Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Andrew J Katrinak, 68. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. Although I would have liked it to be death! I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. And NOBODY saw her at all? Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. ``She sat me down and told me I would probably hear about it,' Myers recalled. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. Rorrer was sentenced to two life sentences at the women's state prison in Muncy, Pennsylvania. They are total bs. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Nailed? How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. U.S.M.C. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. Had there been a switch? I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Thats my life.. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Browse Locations. By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Locked up. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Beautifully said Cliff! If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. The first rule of a murder is motive. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Its nine minutes into the video. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. It seems so, according to you. Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . Dial-a-problem. (Nope. He was happy. Formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, Rorrer was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when . I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. All rights reserved. Disclaimer: PeekYou is not a consumer reporting agency per the Fair Credit Reporting Act. Andrew has not demanded this. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. Username. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Sad discovery. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. Mr Steve J Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Why? To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. She took out the woman who replaced her. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. 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