In a discussion about a photo of Train No. 3977, is on display in North Platte, Neb. UP Passenger Trains, 1946-1959 -- An incomplete list of Union Pacific passenger trains in the post-war period, taken from a very small sampling of public timetables. San Francisco Overland began through dining car service (David Seidel). Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lionel 6-28099 Union Pacific 4-6-6-4 JLC Series Challenger Steam Engine NEW C-9 at the best online prices at eBay! $28.00 shipping. Due to their popularity, the Challenger trains began operating in two separate sections. The cafe-lounge remained until shortly after the loss of the mail contracts in late 1967. Union Pacific Challenger Class 4-6-6-4 #3977 is on display at Cody Park in North Platte, NE. This item can be shipped to United States, New Zealand, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Wallis . September 15, 1937 carrying the train westward to Los Angeles. Air conditioning, reduced noise, and a better ride distinguished these trains from the conventional steam-powered models. (Trainorders.com, January 31, 2020), (An excellent summary of Union Pacific's Butte Special passenger service is in Thornton Waite's "The Butte Special" article in the Summer 2009, Volume 23, Number 3, issue of The Streamliner, published by Union Pacific Historical Society), "The Challenger passenger trains, known as "Everybody's Limited," were introduced in the middle of the Depression in an attempt to draw ridership back to the rails. A group of Union Pacific employees volunteered their services to restore the locomotive to running condition in 1981. Trains 23 and 24, Chicago to Oakland. The Union Pacific Challengers are a type of simple articulated 4-6-6-4 steam locomotive built by American Locomotive Company (ALCO) from 1936 to 1944 and operated by the Union Pacific Railroad until the late 1950s.. A total of 105 Challengers were built in five classes. Bcher & Medien verkaufen. New lightweight SP diners replace standard heavyweight cars on San Francisco Overland, December 15, 18, 31, 1949 The trains had full Pullman service and coach seating and were an attempt to draw Depression-Era riders back to the rails. Union Pacific / C&NW / SP Werbebroschre - Der Challenger-Personenzug | Collectibles, Transportation, Railroadiana & Trains | eBay! [3] The only other surviving Challenger is UP No. The Yellowstone Special continued its service between Salt Lake City and West Yellowstone. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for newspaper ad 1946 UNION PACIFIC railroad passenger train California Challenger at the best online prices at eBay! Eastward San Francisco Overland divided into two sections, the Advance section carrying coaches, tourist cars and standard cars being train no. Best Match. $499.99. In May 1955 the five Dome Observation cars assigned to The Challenger were reassigned to the City of St. Louis. Wooden benches were the standard seating accommodations and wood stoves furnished heat. Into the streamliner era it earned national acclaim for its first-classCityfleet, often taken by celebrities and Hollywood's elite to and from Chicago. $142.50. It was the only car in the train without tight-lock couplers. The train returned to the schedule as a daily train in every year in early June when the Park itself was re-opened for the season. Enjoy moving trains in breathtaking scenes across the country, all year long. train, which still operates several pieces of original equipment, 321-613-2676 Gift Certificate; . It is one of 105 Challengers built for Union Pacific between 1936 and 1943 and was, for many years, the only operating engine of its class in the world - the largest and most powerful operating steam locomotive. Union Pacific E9A #955 is ahead of train #108, the eastbound "Challenger," operating over the Milwaukee Road east of Elgin, Illinois on August 15, 1956. When the 9000-series Dome Observation cars were delivered in February and March 1955 (with the last one coming in early April), the five cars numbered as 9010-9014 were assigned to the Challenger train. The new train met with such success that the UP ordered 68 cars rebuilt, including 47 coaches, 16 Pullman sleeping cars, and 5 dining cars. The exterior was smoothly contoured with curving skirts, rounded rear end, full width diaphragm and a low angled roof with streamlined vents. The Butte Special was a Union Pacific passenger train connecting Butte, Mont., and Salt Lake City, Utah, providing a vital service to the sparsely populated area in eastern Idaho and southwestern Montana an area with poor roads to boot. Like the City of San Francisco (SF 1-2-3) and the Forty-Niner, it provided deluxe service, five round trips a month. 2, 1940-1949, Union Pacifics Challenger: An Unusual Passanger Train, 1935-1971, Union Pacifics Streamliners (Great Passenger Trains), UP Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment. Category : Toys & Hobbies > Model Railroads & Trains > Railroads & Trains > Starter Sets & Packs; Seller : xingpin78 See more from this seller; Items Specifications - MPN : BAC00692 - Country Of Manufacture : China, People's Republic of - Harmonized System Code : 9503.00.00.90 - Number of Items in Set : 1 - Year Manufactured : 2014 14 bids. The 36 seat diner which made the first round trip on the Special was owned by the Pullman Co. and had been leased to the Seaboard Airline for the winter season New York-Florida runs. Class TTT 2-10-2 UP 5511. 1937 saw the UP partnering with the Southern Pacific Railroad to add a train from Chicago to Oakland, California, a line that would take the name San Francisco Challenger (the original then became the Los Angeles Challenger). Ogden and Oakland/San Francisco known as the San Francisco Challenger. It was not a glamorous train, and was in the shadow of it's superior trains, the yellow and gray streamliner City of San Francisco and mostly two-tone gray (at least in 1946-50) San Francisco Overland. David Seidel reported that the ICC ordered UP to continue operating Trains 5 and 6 until October 30, 1969. known as the Pacific Limited." Without going into technical detail beyond my pay grade, the locomotive designers took a hard look at the way both front and back engines were attached to the boiler and made some changes to contact surfaces and hinge pins, all to make the best single-expansion articulated even better. Union Pacific Challenger No. Night Trains The Pullman System in the Golden Years of American Rail Travel, Steam Steel & Limiteds A Saga of the Great Varnish, The Official Pullman-Standard Library: Selected Heavyweight Cars, The Official Pullman-Standard Library, Vol. The schedule was slow, which allowed switching of head-end and passenger cars with other trains as the Gold Coast made its way across the country. (Millard County Chronicle [Delta, Utah], June 27, 1968), June 30, 1969 That title has transitioned to Big Boy No. All eight cars of the original consist (except the Geo. (View a list of Pullman cars assigned to the Los Angeles Limited during the 1930s), "UP 6 was the LA to Ogden mail train. Union Pacific Railroad Heritage covers the history of this amazing railroad that was founded in 1862 and completed the United States first transcontinental railroad in 1869. . The Challenger Domeliner service canceled; not included in Amtrak schedules. The caption reads as follows: "A grand old name in Union Pacific passenger lore, the Overland, westbound Train 27, passes under the C&S overpass at the west end of Cheyenne on December 26, 1965. The train was discontinued on June 2, 1946. All scrapped between 1958 and 1959. -- Cascade Basin was removed from consist in August 1940. . From left, Challenger No. The ICC had held hearings in Salt Lake City in April 1968. A 2nd section may not have honored passengers. With the change from C&NW to Milwaukee for Omaha-Chicago connections on October 30, 1955, trains 27 and 28 operated between Omaha and Green River. The dome diners were removed from the City of Portland in 1968 and the City of Los Angeles by 1970,[4] the dome coaches and dome lounge cars remained until the coming of Amtrak. Increased traffic during World War II led the UP to add the Furloughee Challenger to its roster on December 31, 1944; the train's name was changed to Military Challenger on December 23, 1945, and then to Advance Challenger on April 14, 1946. They ran concurrently for two years. during the off seasons. Les meilleures offres pour Brochure publicitaire Union Pacific / C&NW / SP - Le train de passagers Challenger sont sur eBay Comparez les prix et les spcificits des produits neufs et d'occasion Pleins d'articles en livraison gratuite! 30. Public timetables for June 1946 through June 1955 show the San Francisco Overland, Trains 27 and 28, as being a Chicago to Oakland train. The 10 section, 1 drawing room, 2 compartment car and the two 6 compartment, 3 drawing room cars had been refurbished, air conditioned and repainted but not remodeled in 1938. Omaha, Nebraska and Chicago. Passenger Cars; Track; Starter Sets & Packs; Parts & Accessories; Other Railways & Trains; All; . The train ran from 1913 to 1947, when it was combined with the Portland Rose, another all-Pullman train which had added coach service when the streamliners went to daily service. Union Pacific's Challenger: An Unusual Passanger Train, 1935-1971 Patrick C. Dorin TLC Publishing 2001, 80pp Soft Cover. May 1957-- A listing of consists of Union Pacific passenger trains passing through Salt Lake City in April and May 1957, including changes in the consists at . It replaced the Los Angeles Limited which had operated since December 17, 1905 between Los Angeles and Chicago. For the first time, detailed coverage of the Union Pacific/Chicago & Northwestern passenger trains tells the entire story of this innovative line. That was precisely what UP and Alco had in mind when they made an important revision to the 1942 class of 20 Challengers. Toggle menu. May 12, 1936 Union Pacific Trims Steam Program, Retires 3895. In essence, the result is two engines under one boiler. The American Milemaster also ran on the Arizona Limited before going to the SoP Lark. *Estimated delivery dates - opens in a new window or tab include seller's handling time, origin ZIP Code, destination ZIP Code and time of acceptance and will depend on shipping service selected and receipt of cleared payment. including the EMD E9s. Construction began on October 1905, but it wasn't until June 1909 that the branch reached Yellowstone, at the station that became known as West Yellowstone. The train operated over Union Pacific between Omaha and Ogden, and between Ogden and Los Angeles. [5] In 2022, it was donated to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America, where it is now being restored to operational condition. 10, No. April 1, 1935 And some of it is based on a very special day in September 1990, when I rode the cab of UP No. Its City fleet is credited as being the first lightweight streamlined passenger trains to operate in the United States. ", Trains 11 and 12 were shown in the June 11, 1949, January 10, 1954, and June 20, 1954 public timetables as "The Idahoan.". No. 717 and 818. The name "Challenger" was given to steam locomotives with a 4-6-6-4 wheel arrangement: four wheels in the leading pilot truck to guide the locomotive into curves, two sets of six driving wheels, and four trailing wheels to support the rear of the engine and its massive firebox. Discontinued by January 1955. The George M. Pullman after running on several other limited trains was sold to the Chicago Great Western in 1952 and was scrapped in 1964. 6 would have carried the revenue passengers. There were three Challenger trains: San Francisco Challenger, Los Angeles Challenger, Portland Rose Challenger. The firstLos Angeles Limitedluxury all-Pullman passenger train departed Chicago, bound for Los Angeles on a 68-hour schedule. Also I have seen quite a few pictures of the Butte Special in Butte, and the locomotives were always turned to lead either in the morning from Salt Lake (NP eastbound), or in the evening when preparing to depart for Salt Lake (NP westbound). SP diners, lounges, coffee-shop, and baggage-dormitory cars on no. It was rebuilt in 1958 by the SoP for mid-train service on the Lark and was sold to EMD in 1965 where it became test car ET 800. They dont write em like that anymore. Passenger service can be traced back to within a few decades of railroading's first appearance on the American scene in the late 1700s. Trix 22940 Class 3900 Challenger Steam Locomotive Number 3969. (Read more about the first electric lights on passenger trains). Service began out of Chicago on July 8, 1937 and remained in service until July 26, 1941. 4014 following the Big Boy's restoration. 27 and 28 from and to Omaha.". One of the six open sections was converted to a dining table and the one across from it to a small kitchen where the sleeping car porter could prepare a light dinner. The name Challenger was given to steam locomotives with a 4-6-6-4 wheel arrangement. Of all these slogans, the one that strikes me as most mythic is Overland Route. It conjures images of stagecoaches, John Gasts painting American Progress, track-laying gangs of the Central Pacific and Union Pacific, Cecil B. DeMilles epic film Union Pacific, and a dusty outpost where a golden spike was driven. Vintage Tinplate Marx Trains M10005 Union Pacific Passenger Train Set. FOR SALE! This item is in the category "Toys & Hobbies\Model Railroads & Trains\Railroads & Trains\Passenger Cars". The Challengers were named passenger trains on the Union Pacific Railroad and the Chicago and North Western Railway . June 24, 1968 In the early 1960s the railroad began showing them as 1st and 2nd 103 & 104 trains. Los Angeles Challenger changed to Trains 7 and 8; Los Angeles Limited became Trains 37 and 38, April 8, 1944 The seller is "ohnoi81 and is located in this country: US. . SPONSORED. They had 69-inch (1,800mm) drivers, mammoth wheels usually seen on passenger locomotives only because freight engines normally require the extra torque provided by smaller wheels. It replaced the Los Angeles Limited which had operated since December 17, 1905 between Los Angeles and Chicago." The Challenger was arguably the most successful simple articulated of all time. (Wayner, Car Names Numbers and Consists, 1972, page 148), "The five twin-unit dormitory-kitchen-dining cars (5100-5104) were withdrawn from CHALLENGER service. Showing only minor signs of wear and handling consistent with its age. However, as the Twenties progressed and the automobile gradually came to be viewed as a necessity rather than a luxury, Union Pacific decided to take some drastic steps to bring ridership back to the rails. Atlas 10 003 674 HO U28C Locomotive Silver - Union Pacific #2803. The following comes from Dick Harley, in an email dated February 5, 2009: Both the LA and SF Challengers had six day turn-around schedules. The Union Pacific Railroad took delivery of the very first locomotive with the 4-6-6-4 wheel arrangement in 1936 when it received 15 of them from the American Locomotive Company. Included within the consist was the fabled Domeliners (dome coaches) and observations along with the lounges, sleepers, and diners already provided previously with the train. Enter your search keyword. The society is not supported by, or affiliated with the railroad other than the preservation of its rich and colorful history. Free shipping for many products! In 1969 it along with the Los Angeles, City of San Francisco, City of Denver, and City of Portland were all combined into one giant consist the City of Los Angeles, Porter service was available throughout the train, and most stations had agents on duty to assist passengers. by Dan Mundt. UP's fleet, although it remained a permanent fixture on its timetable by the mid-1950s. Thereafter, 5&6 carried only chair cars." August 21, 1935 Union Pacific inaugurated its passenger service in July 1866. Trains 5 and 6 were discontinued. The donation of UP Challenger 3985 greatly saddens me. 844) get all the limelight. 4014 following the . It refers to Union Pacific Challenger #4014. Best known among these is Union Pacific 3985, one of 105 Challengers built for the railroad. 13, Union Pacific, The Official Pullman-Standard Library: Vol 14 UP 1937-1958", Union Pacifics M-10000 and the Early Streamliner Era 1934-1941, Union Pacific Railroad Photo Archive: Passenger Trains of the City Fleet, Union Pacific Railroad Passenger Cars, Vol. The August 14, 1927 timetable shows that the San Francisco Limited began service as trains 27 and 28. However, Don Strack rescued the data and transferred it over to his, If you are researching anything EMD related please visit, If you are researching active or abandoned corridors you might want to check out the, Abraham Lincoln (Train): Ride, Schedule, Consist, Timetable, Norfolk & Western 611: Excursions, Restoration, Background. [clarification needed] Speeds in excess of 60 miles per hour (100km/h), while unheard-of on most other railroads using articulated steam locomotives, became commonplace on the Union Pacific. ", (View a list of Pullman cars assigned to the Pacific Limited during the 1930s), The name "Pacific Limited," as used for the UP Heritage Fleet sleeper (UPP 4003)," per UP's web site: "Named 'Pacific Limited' to commemorate an all-Pullman electric-lighted train between Chicago and Ogden, Utah, where it split and separate sections went on to either Los Angeles and San Francisco, California. By the time I rode it in 1970 they were no longer using the stove and were only serving cold sandwiches, etc. It was described as "a palatial train for particular people. Union Pacific is known for many historical aspects of American railroading. Trains 35 and 36 were "The Butte Special" between Salt Lake City and Butte, Montana, so Trains 11 and 12 were combined with Trains 35 and 36 between Pocatello and Salt Lake. The 3985 shared in that contribution. 3985's next stop - Trains Magazine - Trains News Wire, Railroad News, Railroad Industry News, Web Cams, and Forms", "Railroading Heritage of Midwest America, Union Pacific agree to donation of Challenger, other locomotives, cars", "Railroading Heritage of Midwest America - official website", "Work begins on Union Pacific Challenger No. Booster engine under tender gave steam locomotive extra oomph. Lounge rooms at the ends of the coaches were provided for those who wished to remain awake. SP adopted the name the Overland Limited for its portion of the Trains 1 and 2, which UP had called its portion of the two trains beginning in November 1895.. 1906 The result was a locomotive in working order weighing some 317 short tons (288t; 283 long tons) accompanied by a tender weighing 174 short tons (158t; 155 long tons) when 2/3 loaded. 11 and 12 run between Pocatello and Portland. Union Pacific Challenger: Railroad slogans are one of the industrys lost arts. Get updates and special offers via email from Trains.com brands! The trains had full Pullman service and coach seating and were an attempt to draw Depression-Era riders back to the rails. In 1934 the City of Salina, It also helped carry the many travelers and vacationers hoping to experience the Golden Gate International Exposition, a special fair . They operated over most of the Union Pacific . In 1921, passenger revenues reached an all time high. The Geo. (Craig Lacey, August 18, 2022, Facebook), On January 22, 1968, Union Pacific applied to the federal Interstate Commerce Commission for permission to discontinue The Butte Special, Trains 35 and 36. August 24, 1927 4-4-0 Union Pacific #119 (Tender and Coal load) HO Scale Model Train Steam Locomotive. September 24, 1967 It will carry standard Trains 29 (Butte Special) and 30 (Salt Lake Special) as early as 1930; changed to Trains 35 and 36 after May 1957. A photo taken on December 26, 1965 show a train leaving Cheyenne westbound, with SDP35s 1407 and 1400 as motive power. Passenger travel via train began in the 1830s in eastern markets, reaching midwestern lines in the 1860s. lionel trains o gauge scale collection for sale. And they were more than simply freight haulers. . As a result the The track also featured exclusive coaches for women and children at the head of the train, thus eliminating the need for men to even walk through the cars." The derailment of a Union Pacific freight train in Gothenburg, Nebraska, on 21 February, came after three coal trains had derailed in the area in 2022. . Station calls were eliminated during sleeping hours, and short-haul passengers were wakened by train crews before their destinations. June 1931 1 bid. If you are a supplier, contractor or carrier, please visit the. The Union Pacific UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD Lounge Car Challenger Sleeping Car Passengers Unpost A250 - $16.31. In 1998 a gentleman by the name ofAndre Kristopans put together a web page highlighting virtually every unit out-shopped by General Motors' Electro-Motive Division. 24.77 + 21.05 Postage. (train) The Challengers were named passenger trains on the Union Pacific Railroad and the Chicago and North Western Railway (which was replaced in 1955 by the Milwaukee Road ). About the same time, SP mail train 22 from Oakland would arrive, and the two trains would be consolidated into one huge, (say 18 to 22 car) mail and express train for Omaha and Chicago, with a rider coach or two on the tail. September 25, 1960 No new passenger cars were specifically purchased for the Gold Coast, so its consists included a most interesting group of rebuilt heavyweight passenger cars and pre-war lightweight hand-me-downs, but the Gold Coast was predominantly heavyweight throughout its rather short existence. Challenger, streamlined passenger train, of the Union Pacific. Mechanical problems forced it out of service in October 2010; it was retired in January 2020 after the restoration of the 4-8-8-4 Big Boy 4014[1][2] and eventually donated to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America in 2022, where the locomotive is undergoing a second restoration. (Portions taken from "Union Pacific Mainline Passenger Services, 1921-1971" by David Seidel, The Streamliner, Volume 22, Number 3, pages 20-21; center spread), (Portions taken from Jeff Cauthen, via email dated March 17, 2007), With the opening of the "Golden State International Exposition" in 1939, more service was needed with a seasonal summer all Pullman the "Treasure Island Special". rd numbers. The best ones spoke of far-flung places, and how to get there: Main Street of the Northwest; Everywhere West; Through the Heart of the South. Another recently discovered photo, dated April 16, 1955, shows a 9000-series Dome Observation on the tail end of The Challenger train at DeKalb, Illinois. to a respectable 39 hrs. It is one of 105 Challengers built for Union Pacific between 1936 and 1943 and was, for many years, the only operating engine of its class in the world the largest and most powerful operating steam locomotive. 45 min. The Treasure Island Special stopped operating on September 18, 1940 and did not resume operations the following year because the Exposition had ended and there was not enough traffic to justify it. It remained off the timetable until the C&NW and Union Pacific announced on December 8, 1953 that the train would return with an all-streamlined consist. ICC Finance Docket 24935, reported in 333 ICC 413; decided on June 20, 1968; decision was that the train's operation should be continued for the public good. February 4, 1941 None preserved. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi 4-6-6-4 Challenger Repainted to Undec Item #5113. These single women were charged with first-aid service for the entire train, but their main function was to assist women with small children and children traveling alone. One of my regrets is that I never had the opportunity to ride that train." The Union Pacific dome coach, Challenger, in Hearne, Texas. Eventually downgraded and relegated to summer-only service, by 1965 number 27 survives as an express and mail train with a rider coach occupied only by the occasional railfan or railroader on a pass. (Jeff Asay, email dated August 24, 2012). (The Yellowstone Express train is not mentioned in online newspapers after 1933.). The new 2022 Rivarossi model features a new fuel tender (the real tender stems from UP "Challenger" 3985), a modified firebox, new radio . . Each set of driving wheels has its own steam cylinder. (Trainorders.com, comment by Ed Von Nordeck on February 25, 2019), During their years of operation, Trains 5 and 6 originally carried a 6-6-4 Pullman between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, and between Ogden and Cheyenne (nighttime travel) and a cafe-lounge during daylight hours that was changed en route. But, instead of evolving from two-tone gray into multi-colors, the Gold Coast evolved from green into multi-colors, especially when the UP decided to standardize on its streamliner colors in 1952. The balance of the year, the two trains would be combined as No. The City of Portland, for example, left Portland on the afternoon of the first of every month and arrived in Chicago on the morning of the third. Baggage car The hotels inside Yellowstone National Park were closed "for the duration" on Thursday August 27, 1942. into Chicago, a partnership that would last until the Challenger C1936-44 NORTH WESTERN Union Pacific Challenger Broschre/Zeitplan sehr guter Zustand knapp - EUR 28,04. This special Pullman equipment was interchangeable and sometimes ran in The Overland as is testified in another photograph by Stimson showing The Overland running beside the Humboldt on the Southern Pacific with a Los Angeles Limited observation car in its consist. The schedule of the Overland Limited was reduced from 58 hours to 56 hours, making the fastest train between Chicago and San Francisco even faster. today announced it wants to (Union Pacific Railroad, description for Heritage Fleet Dome Car "Challenger"), "The Challenger began service on August 21, 1935 as an all-heavyweight train between Chicago and Los Angeles. The train had ebbed and flowed as part of Normally, diners did not continue through to foreign roads, so they had faster turn-around. 27-28 run only Oakland to Ogden, April 29, 1951 5 oil. Each train required an engineer, brakeman, conductor, fireman, baggageman, car attendants, cooks, waiters, lounge car attendants and sleeping car attendants. In May 1936 the train commenced operation between Chicago and Los Angeles, California, on its own schedule. The San Francisco Overland became an Omaha-Oakland train, with no Chicago connection, and after summer 1956 it was coach-only east of Ogden and Green River -- no sleepers, no diner, and no name. All written content, photos, and videos copyright American-Rails.com (unless otherwise noted). San Francisco Challenger withdrawn; Trains 23 and 24 changed to Gold Coast, "During the War and until November 1, and May 14, 1947 respectively, the San Francisco and Los Angeles Challengers had operated with a mixture of light and heavyweight equipment and steam power. After the Treasure Island Special service ended in 1940, the train's sleepers became the Arizona Limited. In addition, it carried a Vegas to Ogden, Cheyenne to Omaha cafe-lounge, until their removal in 1967. The new assignment on this train, and its multiple consist changes along its route, made the shortcoming of the tail-end observation apparent and before the end of 1956 the entire fleet of fifteen cars were pulled out of service and were modified for mid-train service. proved to be a very successful operation for at least 20 years although Although the primary and secondary Overland passenger trains certainly varied in their consists from train to train, from day to day, and from year to year, from its conception the Gold Coast also varied from hour to hour along its route. The westbound Challenger completed its run in 39 hours 30 minutes, while eastbound ran 39 hours 45 minutes. "The westbound companion of the Pacific Limited will leave Chicago daily for the Pacific coast at 10:30 a. m. with but two nights en route and with no extra fare."