LV is handy for confirming RF calibration. Im not loaded, but I do focus almost all my disposable income on this. My budget is c. 3,000 for the camera and lens. The battery is removable and can be replaced by the user if broken. This includes the M10-R, M10-P, M10 Monochrom, M10, and M10-D from the current generation, as well as the M (Typ 240), M-P (Typ 240), M (Typ 262), M-D (Typ 262) and the M Monochrom (Typ 246) from the prior generation. I like them nice and simple, low tech, etc. In the run up to buying an M10 Ive been reading a lot of reviews, and have found the M262 is rarely mentioned in them. With the M262 even going away for a long weekend I would debate the need to even take the charger for a single battery. I keep looking at the 262 as a hidden gem. Leica has issued new, updated firmware for the entire range of Leica M10 and M240-generation cameras. But, when my M262 needed to go to German camera hospital for what I guessed might be a significant amount of time (as is often the case), I figured I had little to loose trying out an M240 for a few weeks/months. Of all the mentioned digital rangefinders, I enjoyed the [], [] is a definite yes! But the M9 for me has so many characteristics, beyond specs, iso performance or touchscreen blah blah blah. I love the colors from the sensor as a whole, but one thing I dont like is rendering of skin tones. I have not seen that anywhere in the promotional material. The even newer M-P Typ 240 purchase just opens up addtional opportunities of using a digital M as a multi-purpose tool. Why torture yourself? Learn how your comment data is processed. A phase-detection autofocus system is faster than a contrast detection autofocus system. Simple. Thanks. Fast continuous shooting, reliable autofocus and great battery life are just three of the most important factors. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. A raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor. The Leica M262 (and M240 or any other current M as of July of 2016) seems more like a bridge between the past and what could be the future of Leica. The Leica M [typ 240] (or M240 for short) was the first Leica to adopt the odd naming convention that broke away from the M# convention of yore. If zinc is your preference the M6 is your baby. Unfortunately, there are elements of the way the ISO modes work that have slightly bothered me.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_13',184,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-leaderboard-2-0'); To be fair, the auto ISO is really well implemented. Unfortunately, my business partner has also vetoed the idea of me selling both M240 and M262 to buy an M10. It has been a bit of an adjustment shooting with such a stripped-down camera but Im really learning to love it a lot. p.s. The bigger the screen size is, the better the user experience. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Edward - you are right about the blues and reds. You'd be wise to buy the best/latest digital body you can afford and leave a healthy budget for the best/most lenses possible. If you half press the shutter to leave the menu without pressing SET the ISO remains what it was set to before. Whats the best camera for around $2000? Both are great cameras and either would be fine. Released only weeks apart, the Sony 50mm F1.4 GM and Sigma F1.4 DG DN Art are clear competitors. Help us by suggesting a value. Use your experience to help others in the community make a decision. Has a built-in focus motor Leica M (Typ 262) My first surprise was as any Leica M240 user would likely tell you just how familiar it felt. Equally, if I dont find anything particularly bad to say, thats got to be a good thing too, but it doesnt really help in the process of finding things to say. In my view the lens in use IS much more important than a bit colour differences M240/M262/other Ms. I've always wanted a Leica and was thinking of picking up a used M262 or M240 to replace my Fuji. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The Leica M10-R rangefinder camera has a newly developed 40 megapixel sensor that represents a big increase from the 24 megapixels of the previous M10 model. Fast continuous shooting is useful for catching action shots. I just picked up a Leica M-P Typ 240 to compliment my new M9-P I bought a couple weeks ago. The resolution is given as a compound value, comprised of horizontal and vertical pixels. I have an M246 where just holding down the ISO button, turning the thumbwheel to change it then releasing does the job. Turns out that was bollocks too! Privacy policy. Mostly because of the need for a screen that I allude to. I dont mind adjusting contrast, thats just part of the process of me. A m262 is limited to the lens choice as it rangefinder view only. That said, M10 GAS is real. The Leica M (Typ 262) has a pared-down feature set, an extra quiet shutter unit and a lower price than the M Typ 240. Looking forward to your impressions, cheers! Don't be one of those people who blows their budget on a body and can barely afford to buy a lens or two. I like to do a lot of still lifeand some close-up and macro work. The image on the back screen of the Leica M240 is very cool toned and unsaturated. I think, at least, Ive not tried one either . Compared to the M9 Ive found less of a problem with magenta shift, especially in skin tones, though its fair to say the bias is still toward magenta as opposed the the green bias I found in my Sonys especially the older and cheapest ones that had frankly horrible colour-science. As cboy pointed out above, that may limit lens choice. That breaks the rules by my measure, unfortunately . The better screen, slightly improved interface and even fairly small things like the artificially lit frame lines introduced in the M240 made the the camera feel more mature. I was wondering if you ever ended up upgrading to the M10? The view taken by some Leica users when the M240 was released was that features like live-view and video had no place on a Leica. I used the M240 for over two years before upgrading to the M10 a year and a half ago. They've been even used in a documentary made by a friend of mine. Funny thing that while the M10 launched, I ordered one early 2017 thinking this may be the M I waited for. I think it is a very cool and stripped down digital M camera that I purchased used to compliment my M3 (I use the M3 with a 50mm and 90mm lens). For more articles on 35mmc about the subject matter discussed here, please click one of the following tag links: Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience. The SET and the ISO buttons are much more useful though to be honest, I personally dont even use the stuff in the set menu either. Like most people, I suspect. The M10 has the new ISO wheel on the top left. It usesa 24-megapixel CMOS sensor, a Maestro image processor witha near-silent shutter, and a quiet shutter-cocking motor. The WB white balance button is completely redundant by my measure. For example, I have seen an as new M240 from a Leica Store for 2,495 and a Voigtlander Ultron 50mm for c.700. Any chance youre planning to do a write up on that Nokton 50mm f/1.2? Leica claims it uses different technology, whatever that means. The ideas with Leica is identities. Ill have to dig out an online manual , I got an 262 you have to press SET after choosing- only with 3 button possiblewith latest software (2021). All the added features that the M240 brought to the table didnt really appeal to me, and specifically because I didnt think I was interested in live view, I felt that all the M10 could offer me was an ISO dial. There are no 'Landscape', 'Sport', or 'Smile Detection' modes. You shouldnt be so hard on yourself, Pera. A series of photographs taken from the same position over a long period is joined together to create a short video. With a standard mini jack socket, you can use the device with most headphones. I remember having an unexpected opportunity to fondle the M10, when it was first promoted, when a Leica rep. happened to visit my favorite camera shop. If you intend to use lenses wider than 28mm or longer than 135mm Liveview and EVF are very useful, also macro photography is much easier (essential with the new 90mm macro lens and macro adapter) or if you need video. M-D, M-P, M240 and M262 photos. Equally, Ive not found the dynamic range to be too limited. Very interesting. . Even when recording scenes with a lot of fast movements, the videos are sharp and clear. I upgraded to the M240 from an M9, had it for 3 months and went back to an M9. At this point, Leica will probably keep video for its SL series. With the ISO being menu driven, its also very possible to accidentally leave it on a too-high setting. Finally, a digital camera that truly feels like a good old analog Leica. I think the sensor is the same, only the signal processing is different because there is no LV. I cant tell you how relieved I was about this I know that probably sounds daft, but my Leica rangefinders are default cameras that I rely on when I want to shoot without any thought to the camera. And if you are not interested in movies or EVF, as a.Noctilux said, you can ignore them. The Leica M-D Typ 262 was released in 2016 and is already rather difficult to find. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. I will investigate that. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. (Leica M Typ 240), Nikon D850 + Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm f/4G ED VR, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV + Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, Sony Alpha a7 III + Sony FE 24-105mm f/4 G OSS, Sony a6600 + Sony E 18-135mm F3__5-5__6 OSS, Sony Alpha a7 III + Sony FE 28-70mm f/3__5-5__6 OSS, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV + Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. Material choices as well as the overall fit and finish are second to none. Nice review.I bought a m262 this year when one of my pensions surprisingly came out.I wanted1] a digital leica m2] no video3] no live view4] no EVFBut i like to sometimes review a pic when i am out and about.The 262 is perfect for me and i love it.with the m-e 240 being announced i have noticed that used 262 cameras have already dropped in price so its possible i can buy a dream 2nd body.Meaning another 262. BTW the battery life of a charge is awesome. The transport lever on the Leica M3. It leaves me with no desire whatsoever to upgrade at all and will be my sole digital camera for hopefully many years to come., [] a moment to reflect on this previous style of photography of mine. This page is currently only available in English. ), and Im now looking to part with the Leica M240 and put the money back into my business (where I borrowed it from). Id mounted the lens to my M262 and was pondering how I was going to get used to shooting a 35mm lens again in such a short period []. While I am relatively new to the Leica world, I have done the exact same thing as you: I am selling my M262 (although not for another digital M!). The use of a CMOS sensor allowed Leica to include two key features that the previous M9 didnt have. The M262 was the stripped-back camera that came after the M240 and before the M10 and as regular readers of this website will know, I do like a stripped-back camera.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_10',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Leica must have listened to some of their users who felt that they didnt need a lot of the features that the Leica M240 offered them, and created a camera that felt a little more like a natural progression from the M9. Additionally, I really like the simplified look and small upgrades the MP versions offer. It is the successor to the world's first full-frame mirrorless camera, the LEICA M9 of 2009.. To make pictures, those are good bodies to be used with good lens. The number of megapixels determines the resolution of the images captured with the main camera. (they really have me suckered in dont they?!). As the cameras are meant to have identical sensors, do we think this is just new owner's biased impressions (nothing wrong with that btw) is could there be something in this? For me and my tastes though, the Leica M262 does feel like an advancement from the M240. It unites decades of experience in rangefinder technology with groundbreaking digital technologies: It features a completely newly developed high-resolution full-format CMOS sensor that, in combination with its high-performance processor and the legendary M-Lenses; delivers outstanding . By comparison, the Leica M240 had a lot of features many of which, as Ive alluded to, were seen by some as not needed on a Leica M rangefinder. Your previous content has been restored. Hi Hamish, I have used an M240 extensively for the last 18 months. As I mentioned in my recent post about the M240, the stripped-back interface was exactly reason . No one ever uses video functionality of the240 anyways. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_17',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Overall, these changes made the move from the M9 to M262 feel greater than the sum of their parts. I drive a 15 year old car for example, dont buy clothes often, have one pair of shoes, etc. With sensor shift, the image sensor (rather than the lens) moves to counterbalance any vibration of the camera. Theres been a couple of times when Ive picked the camera up one after using it in lower light and ended up shooting a whole loads of frames at a high ISO before twigging that the chosen shutter speed seems too high. I took the M240 because it offeres live view. Theres a certain robustness or heft to the M240/M262 files that I personally dont see in the M10 files, and that is likely a result of the different sensors used in the cameras. Sometimes, colours from M262 can be a bit more saturated than from M240, but as I use them only in recording DNG, post work can do what I want. This is an inspiring and generous website. Focusing that close without rangefinder coupling is of course quite difficult unless you have live-view. Its back to the basics. In fact, I pressed the LV (for live-view) button on the camera before I even took a photo. After the M11 released though, used prices of the M10 dropped and I decided to get one. For a start, the battery in the M262 was a lot bigger than that in the M9. This is exiting news in so many ways that I will now test your patience for a few minutes in trying to explain it. Bear in mind I have not held or shot an M10, my information comes from extensive reading of user experiences. Unknown. Great pictures and very interesting. I didnt really need the better low light performance that the M262 offered, and was quite happy with the speed and output from the often lauded CCD sensor in the M9. For the M240, forget it. The colour differences between the two are due to slightly different colour handling in the camera and can be cancelled out completely by the camera profiles in LR. Aluminium body makes is nice and light. The M240 is a great camera that produces gorgeous images but you are undoubtedly going to love the M10. Of course, Id skipped the M240 and gone from M9 to M262 though surprisingly, the menu system of the M262 is even more stripped back than that of the M9. Pera I think you might be giving a little to much benefit of the doubt there . Then I bought an early mirrorless camera possibly a Panasonic or Sony, I cant remember which came first and I had to eat a load of humble pie. This never really bothered me about the M9, but having the issue taken away made me appreciate the issue for what it was. The new Leica M is the most innovative and versatile M-Camera that the modern M-System has ever created. but it really did sound like something was missing inside compared to the 240. For compact cameras, a focus motor is usually built-in. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Quite possibly because my camera at the time didnt have it as a feature, I denied that I would ever find it useful. After a few weeks of using the new Leica M262 I posted a review along with a few videos. Funnily enough, when searching to find out if I was the only one to notice this, I found this post on a forum where someone finds the same issue, but prefers the cooler screen of his Leica M240 to the later M-P version of the M240 which seems to have the same warmer screen as my M262. I currently own a 262. I have used many rangefinders, a Leica M8, M9 (and its variants M-E/M9P/MM), M262, M240P and of course most recently the M-D 262. I am very pleased to be in a forum withso many helpful people. What's the best camera for shooting sports and action? great output, but cant get a shot off faster than with the M8. I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. Thats why the M-D 262 and the M 262 have the same type name. To a degree, I can see their point too. To be fair, about 30 days of the last six months had the Leica in intensive care at Leica New Jersey so this is technically five months with the M262. I drive a 15 year old car for example, dont buy clothes often, have one pair of shoes, etc. Yes!! Ive decided to sell my Leica M typ 262, so I thought it about time I write a bit of a post about it. The Leica M [typ 262], or M262 for short offers whats best described as a stripped-back user interface. As I understand technically m240 is similar to m262 (only some features, but not sensor). Why poor white balance, plus bad color in JPEG files, for Q2 camera? It's slightly lighter than the 240 and I have no use for video nor live view in a Leica. I hadnt noticed that it focused closer though. - Leica M 262 & Voigtlnder 50/1.2. There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional film productions or even A-cameras for amateur and independent productions. Keep forgetting about that. A few years later I sold all my Nikon DLSR kit and switched to Sony full frame A7 cameras and began to realise just how useful it can be. Im not trying to justify myself I certainly wouldnt to trolls the point is simply that I spend my money on something I enjoy. That being said, this is pretty much everything I want from a digital camera or any sort of camera for that matter. Either way, its the M262 that I want to keepif(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_18',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Though I must admit, this experience has had me thinking that an M10 would be better suited to me now.
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